Give it all out

A little poll.. I would also like to take a few secs to say something about those kara minimums. It means that those are what you need to enter KZ, but it doesn't mean that you can't try to upgrade outisde of KZ.. Badge gear > t5 even t6 sometimes so lets get farming, and go heroics, you might be able to upgrade in heroics.. Don't just go for minimum, go all out give it your all or we will not be able to see any 25man content. I hope all PvE'ers so answer this poll and if we don't have 25 peeps answering the first option we will not be able to do 25mans sadly.

I'm giving this poll a week and everyone not answering will not be considered interested in raiding

Made my vote.

I'll add here that this does not mean that people have to play more lol - which is what many people are starting to think... but that when you do play - you help in the odd heroic if you have time, do dailies to get some money for elixirs ect..., pvp for items that might be useful for you in raids (eg. the staff for casters, or the mace for healers)

It also means that after you have spent 15 mins looking at porn, you check out some info on your class and where your next upgrades are or what your going to spend your badges on next... or what enchants do you still need... its really not too hard tbh

that is true. It might sound like you are gonna spend a lot of time, but it just means you will have to think about how to upgrade and where.. You can still put the same /played time into it. And tbh pots and food will take 30 mins and then you got enough for a week (often it is like this.. GG cheap AH)

I just wanted to point out that we shouldn't settle with minimums.

So you don't have to put more gaming time into it than you are, you just have to focus a bit more on raid pve.